"That's love," the professional matchmaker says of Chen's decision to publicly stand by her husband, Les Moonves, who is facing sexual assault allegations.
"The Millionaire Matchmaker" Patti Stanger thinks Julie Chen must really love husband Les Moonves to back him so publicly in the wake of the various sexual misconduct allegations that cost him his CEO job at CBS.
On Thursday's episode of "Big Brother," viewers -- including Patti -- were thrown when Julie closed the show by using her full married name, Julie Chen Moonves, clearly showing support for her (former) TV executive husband.
"That was kind of shocking," Patti told TooFab Friday. "But I know a lot's at stake. She has 'The Talk.' She's got 'Big Brother.' That's her job. It's her livelihood. I don't know. I really don't know what's gonna happen to them, but I do know that she loves him 'cause why would she say his last name? That's love. She didn't hide in a corner like Georgina [Chapman] did with [Harvey] Weinstein."
"We don't know what Julie's doing with Les," she added. "We don't understand the dynamics of their relationship. She may be very deeply in love with him, and they have their own relationship going on. You can't throw stones at people."
Patti was less vague when it came to her thoughts disgraced movie mogul Weinstein, though, telling TooFab, "Weinstein's wife had to have known, in my opinion ... but at the end of the day, you know, it's a lifestyle. It's a whole lifestyle. You're not just getting a guy. You're getting private planes and fancy clothes and great parties, and you're not willing to give it up. I mean, let's be real, it's not regular people. And I'm sure there are regular people doing sexual harassment at a lower level, but their wives are leaving them."
Patti also said she knew "forever" that Matt Lauer was living up to his reputation of sexual harassment, explaining, "It was in New York all over the place. [Soon-to-be ex-wife Annette Roque] was eventually gonna say goodbye."
"Here's what I don't get," Patti added. "How come no one's admitting that they hurt these women? How come no one's giving a formal [apology]? Even President [Bill] Clinton gave an apology at some point. How come nobody's giving an apology? I don't understand. These women have been all abused. A lot of them reported to different police departments...and nobody has said anything to them. It's all like, 'Oh, my God. I'm losing my money. I'm losing my wife.' What about the women that you hurt? I don't really get that. That part is the part that pisses me off."
"Ugh, men are passive," she said. "I'm on the apps, I hear the complaints, I go on dates. Bumble has a passive energy -- even though it's better pictures and better quality men -- next to Tinder because they have to put a little more information. But it's got this like, 'Oh, if I take you out, should I kiss you, or shouldn't I kiss you?' And you're like, 'You're an alpha, good-looking guy. Why are you not kissing me?' And I started to realize everyone was going through this recently. It's because of the #MeToo [movement]. Like they're afraid to cross the line."
Patti went on to say that the art of flirting is "done" because men these days "want the women to chase them."
So what exactly is the solution for a man who wants to date but is also cautious of today's social climate?
"I would watch some 1950s movies and get the art of courtship down," Patti advised, adding that the key is to be "very polite and very well-mannered."
Back then, Patti said, "it wasn't overly coming onto a girl and pouncing on her after two beers."
"It was kind of like, 'I'd like to take you out. I'd like to take you to dinner,'" she explained. "Start holding the hand, maybe putting the arm around her in the movie theater, and then going in for the kiss."
Watch Patti's interview above, and stay tuned for lots more nuggets from her chat with TooFab.
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