Kim also broke her silence about sister Khloe Kardashian's rough post-pregnancy situation with baby daddy Tristan Thompson, saying, "I don't even know how to describe it besides it's just so f-cked up. We really were rooting for Khloe, and we still are. She's so strong, and she's doing the best that she can. It's a really sad situation all over."
Kardashian then compared the situation to the one brother Rob Kardashian had with his baby mama, Blac Chyna, saying, "I made this rule with my brother: If there's a baby involved, I'm gonna keep it cute and keep it classy and not talk too bad. Try not to say anything so negative, because one day True is going to see this, and it's so messed up."
Kim also clarified what husband Kanye West meant when he made his big return to Twitter and said he was looking to "get rid of everything" in his life, saying, "He was talking about clarity, and he always talks about how we should not have our phones first thing in the morning in our house with the kids. It's our rule that we really try to live by. I think he was talking about cleansing."
Kim said she had never known anyone who had had a baby via surrogacy, so she was "scared" about how her third baby's birth would go, but after it was all said and done, Kim said it was "the best experience."
"The moment [my surrogate] was getting the epidural, I was like, 'Thank God this is not me,'" Kim said, adding that she's since become "good friends" with the woman who carried Chicago.
"The second she came out, any fear that I had of, 'Will I not have this connection? Will she not look like me?' all of that goes out the door, and instantly, she's ours," Kim said. "It's such a good feeling."
Kanye Played Connect 4 During Chicago's Delivery
"We had a connecting room, and Kanye was in there playing Connect 4 with his friends and not really paying attention," Kim told Ellen, adding that she recruited sister Kourtney to be by her side while her surrogate was in labor.
"So did he stop playing Connect 4 at some point?" Ellen jokingly asked. "I love that game, by the way."
"It's his favorite game," Kim said. "He's the best at it. I'm so bad at it. I'm really good at games, despite what you've heard, so we'll talk about that later."
Ellen pointed out that Chicago breaks Kim's tradition of giving her children one-syllable names, which she admitted "kind of messes with" her.
"We were gonna name her Jo 'cause my grandma [is] Mary Jo," Kim said, adding that the other one-syllable name she considered was Grace. "And then it was Chicago. We ended up with Chicago. Obviously [Kanye's] from Chicago. That is a place that made him and a place that he remembers his family from. He really wanted his mother's name, and I love that name, too, I just wasn't sure if [it was] so much to live up to."
Kanye's late mother's name was Donda.
"I just felt like Chicago was cool and different," Kim said, adding that the family calls her Chi for short. "So it's like North, Saint and Chi."
Saint Is a Genius
Ellen brought up that she heard Saint can spell the word gargantuan, which she quickly said she didn't believe.
"I swear!" Kim said. "First of all, I've never seen a child speak the way he speaks. He has such amazing vocabulary. And I know it's such a Kanye thing to say -- like, 'Oh, my kid's a genuis' -- but if I'm saying it then it's real."
Kim said Saint, who's 2, knows how to spell his first and last name. Regarding the word gargantuan, Kim said he was playing a game and was able to take the letters of the word and place them in the correct order to spell the word correctly.
Kim said North has been "better" with Chi than she was with Saint when he was first born but that Saint is still the "nicer" one.
"He loves his little sister," Kim said of Saint. "He's so sweet with her. I always have to watch out for him [because] he smothers her, and he has this really big hair, so he just jumps in her crib...and his big hair is all over her face and I get worried."
Is Kanye Happy or Not Happy?
In keeping with the theme of game-playing, Ellen decided to try Kim's knowledge of her husband's happiness with a game of "Is Kanye Happy or Not Happy?"
Since Kim's husband rarely smiles, Ellen flashed various photos of Ye across the screen and asked Kim to read his expression. Watch the video below.