Busy Philipps was raped at 14; Ellen DeGeneres was sexually abused at 15. The two bond over their experiences on "The Ellen DeGeneres Show" and call on women to speak up.
Busy Philpps stopped by "The Ellen DeGeneres Show" Wednesday to talk about her new book, "This Will Only Hurt A Little." One chapter is dedicated entirely to her experience of being raped as a 14-year-old girl, a trauma she revealed publicly for the first time last week in support of Dr. Christine Ford's sexual assault testimony against Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
"Last week with the Kavanaugh hearings, I saw Dr. Ford take the stand," Busy told Ellen. "[In my book,] I write about my own experience being raped at 14. I was so moved by her bravery. And it wasn't something that I felt like I was ever gonna blast out on social media, but when I saw her standing there speaking her truth after 30 years, I was like, it's been 25 for me, and I can do this. We can all do this. Politically, whatever you believe, I feel like it's a real moment of reckoning for women that we have sort of collectively carried this burden for so long, and it's time to share it and let it out. It was hard and really scary."
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Busy fought back tears as Ellen pulled up the photo of the actress at 14 -- the one she shared on Instagram. "I have a 10-year-old, so when I look at that baby, I'm seeing my kid," Busy said tearfully.
"To be 14, to be that girl, and for that to happen to her, it's horrible," Ellen said.
"Yeah, and sadly, it's the most unoriginal horror, isn't it? Is what we're finding," Busy added.
That's when Ellen said she had "something happen" to her when she was 15 years old, an incident she first spoke about publicly about a decade ago. When Ellen was 13, her parents divorced. Her mother soon remarried, and her stepfather began sexually abusing her. Ellen said her mother had just had a mastectomy due to breast cancer.
"He told me that he thought he felt another lump in her other breast, and he needed to feel mine," she told Barbara Walters in 2007. "Reluctantly, I let him. And then it escalated."
Ellen said she told her mother but that her mother didn't believe her for many, many years.
"When I watch Dr. Ford -- anyone who's had something happen to them -- you just get so angry when someone doesn't believe you or say why did you wait so long," Ellen said to Busy on Wednesday. "It's because we're girls and we're taught not to say anything and go along with it."
"So, you at 14, me at 15, God knows how many people in this audience have had something happen [to them]," she continued. "Raise your hand if something's happened to you. I'm sure some people don't wanna raise their hand."
"I don't know if I would've," Busy confessed. "I've struggled with it for so long. For so long. And even when I wrote the chapter in my book, I had in my head an escape plan, which was that it doesn't have to go into the book if I panic and don't wanna put it out to the world. But I just feel like we're at this moment in time where -- and I'm so sorry that happened to you. I'm sorry that it happened to all of us. We can do better for our kids and for the next generation, and we will, right?
"To teach our kids to stick up," Ellen added. "I think this conversation needs to happen more, and people need to first of all teach your children to speak up and don't ever keep something in and don't ever be ashamed and think that it's your problem and your fault because it is never your fault. You were a child."
"This Will Only Hurt A Little" is available Tuesday, October 16.