Jana said she noticed inappropriate texts coming in on Mike's Apple Watch and, after checking on his phone, she discovered he had deleted them.
She texted the number back herself asking the person to come clean and got an automated response, leading her to believe it may have been a bot; however the damage was done thanks to the fact her hubby — who has cheated a number of times in the past — had tried to erase the messages without telling her.
Explaining his side of the story, Caussin said he immediately deleted it because he didn't want any part of it, and didn't tell his wife because he didn't wast to reopen old scars.
"On Saturday, we had some friends in town, about to go out for a date night," Caussin explained. "I receive this text message from this number I don't recognize. I open it up, it's a picture of a female..."
"Large boobs, top off," Kramer interjected.
"...message from a female with weird writing underneath saying, 'Oh, let's try to meet up this time' or something like that," Caussin continued. "It wasn't anybody I knew."
Although he said he knew he should have told his wife — as he had done before when something similar happened, and she handled it "quite well" — this time he didn't, not wanting to risk ruining the good place they were in.
"So then yesterday, I don't know what inspired Jana, but she saw my Apple Watch and saw the text message on there," he went on. "So then when she compared it to my phone, she thought I was just being sneaky and deleting it."
"I understand and I truly am empathetic to the fact that her seeing something that was deleted, that wasn't brought to her attention by me in a healthy way, is extremely triggering," he added. "It's a boundary to not delete things, something we have mutually discussed and agreed on... It's one of those things that's just, difficult to navigate."
Breaking down in tears several times throughout the episode, Kramer insisted she doesn't always go rooting through his phone, but her gut told her to this time. "Every time I've had that intuition, it tells me to look — and I always find something," she explained.
The couple share two children: Three-year-old daughter Jolie, and ten-month-old son Jace. They first began dating in August 2014, but she announced they had split just weeks later because he had been unfaithful.
They reunited and eventually married in May 2015, but split again in September 2016 after it emerged the former pro athlete cheated on the actress with "multiple" women after their wedding. The couple later reconciled and renewed their vows in December 2017. When Caussin had a "sex addiction relapse" last year, Kramer stood by his side.
On Monday, the former Washington Redskins tight end tried to explain why he didn't tell his wife about the most recent texts.
"It's scary, period. Because there's so much shame. In my mind even though I know the right thing to do, it's still a reminder of the things that I've done," he said, his voice cracking. "There's so much pain, there's so much fear behind it. I just don't want her to have to think of that stuff."
But when Kramer refused to buy his claim he wanted to tell her, he accused her of "trying to trap me into saying something" — and the podcast ended on an abruptly sour note.
"You wouldn't have told me, and I know that," she snapped. "I really want to be done, I'm closing off guys, I'm sorry."
"It's fine, we've got our kids we'll just go our separate ways," she concluded.
After the show aired, Jana posted a lengthy message on Instagram begging listeners to be kind, and adding she and Mike are in a better spot from where the episode left off.
"Today is a tough one. Our podcast episode that aired this morning was one we almost didn't let air at all," she wrote. "Up until a day ago mike and I wanted to pull the episode completely and just not have an episode for today because it was that heavy for us."
"Honestly the day we recorded I wanted nothing to do with 'work'. I wanted to text our producer and make up some excuse why we couldn't record," she said.
But she added: "The thing though is because Mike and I work together the show must go on and I realize we can't just cancel things because we are in a bad spot. So instead I put my big girl pants on and started to record with mike after a very long and intense 24hours of not talking to each other.
She admitted trying to use her acting chops and sound cool at the start of it, but knew the screen wore off as the episode went on. "We decided to open the door into what happened and woah did we let it all out," she wrote.
"Those of you may not understand the trauma and the pain around what we talked about and openly shared so please be nice and know we ended up keeping the episode because we hope it can help," the message continued. "See that's the thing. None of this has been easy with our shares but we just hope along the way we are able to help others out there not feel so alone. Reality is no matter what you've been through marriage can be a difficult walk especially with added triggers and pain...but know this, ur not alone in that walk and we are here rooting y'all on."
She concluded: "Be kind to us as honestly we are embarrassed by how fresh and raw this episode was. Also. Because the podcast didn't end great...today we are good, and have grown stronger from it. See that's the thing, if you're both willing to fight you can get stronger on the other side."
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