The Murder Inc. cofounder says that while his ex-wife did catch him with another woman, it wasn't with the "Always on Time" singer.
The Murder Inc. cofounder recently spoke about his falling out from the singer on "Growing Up Hip Hop," as he discussed his concerns about reuniting with his supposed former flame for a Murder Inc. tour.
The conversation was kicked off while discussing a clip from the show on Wendy last week -- Wendy and entertainment journalist Devyn Simone referred to the alleged relationship, which Ashanti has yet to confirm herself, as an affair.
"Let me tell what's really going on, it's a lot of misconceptions," said Gotti on Monday morning. After Wendy once again dropped the A-word, he shouted, "Time out! Let me interject."
"Can I talk about this, with women, and I'm gonna circle back to you Wendy," he continued. "Why is it, if a man and a woman is married and they get separated and they're totally separated ... When me and Deb separated, she caught me cheating."
He clarified that he did not get caught with Ashanti. "Ashanti is not a homewrecker, guys," he continued. "Ashanti had nothing to do with me and Deb. Deb caught me when I was directing 'I Cry' in Baltimore. Deb, being the vicious person she is, she came down unannounced, 'I'm Mrs. Lorenzo, give me the room key.' The door was latched, but she knows I'm in there. That's what broke me and Deb up."
He wouldn't tell Wendy who his ex-wife caught him with, but said that Ashanti wasn't "even in the picture" at the time. He also clarified that he was not speaking about the singer when he made comments about infidelity or a woman who was just there "to suck my [censored]" on the WE tv show.
"I want to clear this up, when you see a reality TV show, they edit things so they make it seem like I was talking about Ashanti when I said that and I wasn't," he said. "It was a reality show and they're doing that to do their reality thing, I get it."
He then returned to his original point.
"Why is it that if a man and woman get married, if they are separated, they're not going to be together, I can't go mess with other girls until I sign the divorce papers?" he asked Williams' studio audience. Wendy said there wasn't a problem with that at all, just as he was ready to turn the tables on her.
"You ain't get a divorce yet and I see you swerving," he told Wendy. "Is those divorce papers signed yet? Good for Wendy, do you, it's over!"
On "Growing Up Hip Hop," Gotti said he doesn't "f--k with Ashanti" anymore and they haven't spoken in years. Talking about trying to recruit her for the reunion tour, he said it's a "delicate situation," because she's a "big part of Murder Inc." but they also have unresolved issues with each other.
Speaking with PEOPLE last week, Ja Rule said he believes the two have since "gotten past their little tiff" but wasn't sure if she'd be returning for a reunion performance. "I've been trying to massage that relationship," he said. "They had a great relationship and sometimes this business can take things and turn things into a whole different situation but I think there's room for them to resolve."