"I do stand with women, but we need to show the evidence," Trump told ABC News reporter Tom Llamas. "You can not just say to somebody I was sexually assaulted."
That really fired up Sunny Hostin, who said she'd taken many cases to trial with "just the woman's word."
"And now you have the First Lady of the United States telling women everywhere your word is not enough?!" she exclaimed. "I think it does so much damage and quite frankly, that isn't the law. You don't need corroboration."
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Meghan McCain said there's a bit of a gray area when discussing assault, pointing to #MeToo founder Tarana Burke saying, "When we say believe survivors, it's not believe them without investigation."
"I believe in the Constitution, I believe in due process and I do believe in the presumption of innocence over guilt," said McCain. "That's being brought into play here is the presumption that I need to believe guilty over innocence, which is something protected by the Constitution."
Guest host Yvette Nicole Brown said she gave up listening to anything Melania had to say months ago, adding that she is "not the woman to say anything to me or any other woman about #MeToo, #TimesUp, #BlackLivesMatter."
"She has an orange horse in the race and her orange horse has been accused, credibly, by at least 17 women," she said, before reminding everyone how Melania wore a "I Really Don't Care, Do U?" jacket while visiting an immigrant children's shelter on the Mexico-U.S. border.
"When she threw down that gauntlet, I've decided not to care about anything she says from now on, what she wears, what she does, what she says," added Brown. "I'm not listening to her about anything she has to say."
Abby Huntsman tried to enter the fray, saying Hostin insinuated "evidence doesn't matter" in an assault case and asking about those who are falsely accused. But Sunny wasn't having it.
"Testimony is evidence. You don't need corroborating evidence, you don't need a rape kit, you don't need witnesses, because guess what, there are no witnesses during rape," she said. "I will say between 2-8% of rape accusations are false, it's a very low number."
The conversation then turned to the pith helmet -- a sign of colonialism -- Melania wore during her trip to Africa.
"It's really not a good thing to see, it represents a lot of stuff for folks, especially folks in Africa," criticized Whoopi.
"I think when I try to give Melania so much leg room, I just don't understand the fashion choices," said McCain. "The first lady's fashion choices are political, the clothes our first ladies wear are political statements."
Hostin said it just seemed like the first lady "doesn't have friends," as any good BFF would tell her that accessory had to go.
"This is a group of people that do not like people that know more than them," said Brown. "They revel in not knowing. They don't bring people around that can say, 'This is not the right thing to do.'"
While McCain added that she doesn't like sitting at the table, "being nasty to our first lady for the sake of it," she thought this was an important time to call her out. "It sends a distinct message," she said, one that Americans probably don't want sending.
"Everything is ankle deep, there is no depth to any of it," concluded Brown. "She picked it because she wanted to look cute and she thought the hat was cute, it's just ridiculous."
Melania's full interview will air on Friday night at 10pm.